Posts by Island Man

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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Island Man

I'd guess that only the sisters will remember this meeting... because of the remark about only marrying MS.

And don't forget the parents whose children left the the organization.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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After Morris' comment about parents being reponsible for their children leaving the truth, now might be a good time for all you apostates with loyal JW parents, to send them an email telling them that you love them and your leaving the truth had nothing to do with them and everything to do with the organization itself - its policies and teachings which your conscience can no longer stomach. Tell them that they don't need to feel guilty or allow anyone to make them feel guilty for the choice you made. Tell them you know they love you and did their best to bring you up the way they genuinely believe to be the best. Tell them that even though you don't believe it's the truth, you appreciate that they did their best bringing you up in what they consider to be the truth. Let them see a clear contrast between AM's guilting them and your kind reassuring words. Show up AM for the cruelly manipulative cult extremist that he is! This can go a long way in making an impression on your JW parents and making them think.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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Island Man

The test of faith is that sisters now have an even harder time to find a brother to marry because AM just reduced the already small pool even further by telling them they shouldn't marry anyone who isn't a MS. The org is basically using marriage and hence sex as a chip to coerce brothers into reaching out and/or accepting appointments as ministerial servants. Expect to see more brothers marrying unbelievers. Seems like the org is trying to create or deepen the divide between the loyal, uppity JWs and the more moderate, easy going among them.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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Island Man

Women need to be modest while jogging!

Yeah, sisters! Be sure to wear a nice tight-fitting bra so there are no bouncing melons to tempt any brothers who aren't yet ministerial servants and therefore unworthy of consideration as marriage material.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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Island Man

From Reddit:

If your kids fall out of the truth it is the parent's fault. (holy shit he is actually saying this!) *Sisters shouldn't marry brothers who are not Ministerial Servants. Sisters will pay for that bad decision.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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Island Man

[DUPLICATE POST]

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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Island Man

" Island Man- Your Kidding right?"

Umm . . . kinda. Exaggerating would be more accurate.

From the ex-JW Reddit thread Anthony Morris said that Spiritual families visit bethel. If you haven't you need to do it.

This would have the effect of JWs' practically regarding the visit of Bethel as being just as important as Muslims regard a visit to Mecca.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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Island Man

OMG! The new light is that JW families must make pilgrimage to Bethel at least once in their life. Yes, Bethel is now the JWs' Mecca!

Give The Devil His Due

by Island Man in

that's the theme of a recent public talk delivered at skeptokon by aron ra.

he makes some very interesting points and shares some interesting experiences about the strange behavior of fundamentalist christians, like the way they label everyone who doesn't share their beliefs as being worshipers of the devil.

and that's not the only point in his talk that ex-jws will find familiar.

Island Man

That's the theme of a recent public talk delivered at SkeptOkon by Aron Ra. He makes some very interesting points and shares some interesting experiences about the strange behavior of fundamentalist christians, like the way they label everyone who doesn't share their beliefs as being worshipers of the Devil. And that's not the only point in his talk that ex-JWs will find familiar. He has a witty sense of humor and often gives insider jokes (which former bible-believers will understand) in passing. Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbiADYVORGE

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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Island Man

GustvC:The abusers issue is of no consequence.

GustvC: Actually, for the number of existing JWs, the number of abuse cases is really minuscule

SaritaJ:

Your bible says: Luke 17: 1-2 Then he said to his disciples: “It is unavoidable that causes for stumbling should come. Nevertheless, woe to the one through whom they come! 2 It would be more advantageous for him if a millstone were hung from his neck and he were thrown into the sea than for him to stumble one of these little ones.

Mt 18:6 But whoever stumbles one of these little ones who have faith in me, it would be better for him to have hung around his neck a millstone that is turned by a donkey and to be sunk in the open sea.

Mr 9:42 But whoever stumbles one of these little ones who have faith, it would be better for him if a millstone that is turned by a donkey were put around his neck and he were pitched into the sea.

Amen! SaritaJ